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Kuna haja ya kuwekwa debating club hapa look at this interesting conversation.

An Atheist Professor @mshamba_mkuu of Philosophy was speaking to his class on the problem science has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students @Hakimu to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, @Hakimu?

Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is God all powerful?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(@Hakimu was silent )

Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again we dogo Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(@Hakimu did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?

(@Hakimu had no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes,Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.

(Kijiji Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in Kijijo )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light. But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, weee dogo?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(@mshamba_mkuu shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

(Kijiji was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen @mshamba_mkuu Brain?

(Kijiji broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard @mshamba_mkuu brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room was Silent. @mshamba_mkuu stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
@Hakimu : That is it we dogo wa bodaboda. Exactly ! The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.



The student was @Hakimu alikuwa na ndoto nyingi za kuwa tajiri 😊
 

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The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything? The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name — Albert Einstein.
nimeiona sana hii huko mitandaoni....

dah, sijui naandikaje kwa kiswahili....

evil is not measurable, its not a physical phenomenon.... its more like a force of nature, a delicate side of a balance.... it can happen in many ways. The presence of gratuitous evil, evil that cannot be explained, and is random disproves the existence of an all loving, omnipotent god because there is no reason such a god would let suffering upon his creation, the way suffering happens in this world
 

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Kuna haja ya kuwekwa debating club hapa look at this interesting conversation.

An Atheist Professor @mshamba_mkuu of Philosophy was speaking to his class on the problem science has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students @Hakimu to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, @Hakimu?

Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is God all powerful?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(@Hakimu was silent )

Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again we dogo Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(@Hakimu did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?

(@Hakimu had no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes,Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.

(Kijiji Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in Kijijo )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light. But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, weee dogo?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(@mshamba_mkuu shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

(Kijiji was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen @mshamba_mkuu Brain?

(Kijiji broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard @mshamba_mkuu brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room was Silent. @mshamba_mkuu stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
@Hakimu : That is it we dogo wa bodaboda. Exactly ! The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.



The student was @Hakimu alikuwa na ndoto nyingi za kuwa tajiri 😊
Woow mzee naomba uifanye thread ili isomwe kirahisi
 

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Kuna haja ya kuwekwa debating club hapa look at this interesting conversation.

An Atheist Professor @mshamba_mkuu of Philosophy was speaking to his class on the problem science has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students @Hakimu to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, @Hakimu?

Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is God all powerful?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(@Hakimu was silent )

Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again we dogo Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(@Hakimu did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?

(@Hakimu had no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes,Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.

(Kijiji Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in Kijijo )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light. But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, weee dogo?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(@mshamba_mkuu shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

(Kijiji was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen @mshamba_mkuu Brain?

(Kijiji broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard @mshamba_mkuu brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room was Silent. @mshamba_mkuu stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
@Hakimu : That is it we dogo wa bodaboda. Exactly ! The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.



The student was @Hakimu alikuwa na ndoto nyingi za kuwa tajiri 😊
you talk about evil as if its some measurable thing.... it is a concept, it is broad....

sure, science has its flaws but it is based on tested proof... the origins of life, and the universe as explained by science are more plausible because they are riddled with proof, religious books don't have proof

unavokubaliana na dini moja, unazikataa dini zaidi ya 4000.... vipi ukifa ukaenda ukakuta yako sio sahihi?? religion is full of inconsistencies
 

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amini usiamini mkuu but Mungu yupo na anaishi naamini kupitia

miaka 1000 duniani ni sawa na siku moja mbinguni (hii kitu ipo hata kwenye utofauti wa muda kati ya mwezi na dunia) hivyo naamini Mbingu ipo kutokana na utofauti wake wa muda na duniani

Hapo Mwanzo ulimwengu ilikua ni giza tupu akasema iwe Nuru ikawa (jua) na kweli tunaona uwepo wa Jua ndo unaosabanisha mchana bila jua ni usiku daima naamini

kila kitu kina Origin na huwa na mmiliki hivyo najua dunia na ulimwengu una mmiliki na muumbaji wa hivyo vitu huyo ndo Mr God sasa yupo

uwepo wa Freemasons nguvu za giza, fedha za kishetani na mambo mfano wa hayo unanidhihirishia kuwa kuna upande wa pili (second side/another side) ambao kuna utukufu wa Mungu aliye hai

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20 Tangu Mungu alipoumba ulimwengu, asili ya Mungu asiyeonekana kwa macho, yaani uwezo wake wa milele na Uungu wake, umedhihirika wazi wazi kutokana na vitu alivyoviumba. Kwa hiyo watu hawana kisingizio.

21 Ingawa walimjua Mungu, hawakumpa heshima na utukufu anaostahili wala kumshukuru. Badala yake, fikira zao zimekuwa batili na akili zao zilizopumbaa zikatiwa giza. 22 Wakijidai kuwa ni werevu, wakawa wajinga. 23 Wakauacha utukufu wa Mungu aishiye milele wakageukia sanamu zinazofanana na mwanadamu ambaye hufa, na ndege na wanyama na viumbe vitambaavyo
 

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kila kitu kina Origin
origin ya mungu ni nini
uwepo wa Freemasons nguvu za giza, fedha za kishetani
thibitisha kwa mifano halisi
Hapo Mwanzo ulimwengu ilikua ni giza tupu akasema iwe Nuru ikawa (jua) na kweli tunaona uwepo wa Jua ndo unaosabanisha mchana bila jua ni usiku daima naamini
hii ni hadithi imeandikwa na makuhani wa zamani. Mwanzo 1-8 ni hadithi za kufikirika. fuatilia
miaka 1000 duniani ni sawa na siku moja mbinguni (hii kitu ipo hata kwenye utofauti wa muda kati ya mwezi na dunia) hivyo naamini Mbingu ipo kutokana na utofauti wake wa muda na duniani
lete ushahidi kwamba kuna mbingu, utofauti wa muda kati ya mwezi na dunia ni kwasababu ya mlingano wao na jua
 

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origin ya mungu ni nini

thibitisha kwa mifano halisi

hii ni hadithi imeandikwa na makuhani wa zamani. Mwanzo 1-8 ni hadithi za kufikirika. fuatilia

lete ushahidi kwamba kuna mbingu, utofauti wa muda kati ya mwezi na dunia ni kwasababu ya mlingano wao na jua
sina hoja zaidi ya hizo 😷 but
Warumi 1:20 Tangu Mungu alipoumba ulimwengu, asili ya Mungu asiyeonekana kwa macho, yaani uwezo wake wa milele na Uungu wake, umedhihirika wazi wazi kutokana na vitu alivyoviumba. Kwa hiyo watu hawana kisingizio.

21 Ingawa walimjua Mungu, hawakumpa heshima na utukufu anaostahili wala kumshukuru. Badala yake, fikira zao zimekuwa batili na akili zao zilizopumbaa zikatiwa giza. 22 Wakijidai kuwa ni werevu, wakawa wajinga.
 

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